university of michigan established in 1870. think about the amount of years it's took to build that university into a business institution. you made the choice to come to that school, you've made that choice to gain that scholarship. they've chosen you and you've chosen them and you've been given $40,000 in education over a four-year period of time. that's your due diligence, that's your payment to the school for them allowing you to be there. >> taylor, a fairly rational case for protection of amateurism. how do you respond to that? >> well, it's pretty easy. i mean, to say that getting your scholarship is all the pay you'll ever need is like telling somebody like because they've got medical insurance, they don't need a salary or they're not entitled to a salary. it begs the question. i'm not saying that any school or college must or should pay athletes. all i'm saying is that it's not fair to ban and prohibit them to band together in a cartel and say we're not going to do it so we can keep the money. and no college is allowed